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7 of 7 found the following review helpful:
heat pump hybrid water heater hpe10280ho45dv Mar 28, 2012
I purchased this from Amazon 2 weeks ago because they had the best price and no stores stock this as a grab and go. We intend to use this in heat pump mode only that is the reason we chose the 80 gallon model, the government electric version ( GeoSpring ) is only 50 gallons so you can easily find the need to run the expensive inductive heat elements. This water heater is branded "American Water Heater" but is imported from China by A.O. Smith. I did know it was an A.O. smith product but I was unaware that it was made in China. After a quick disappointment I reminded myself that all of my American made water heaters have prematurely failed (6 or 7 years, like a clock), so maybe its time to try something different. Things to keep in mind would include the cold air that it produces; I am in Ca. so it's a good thing but might not be for everyone also the height is over 80 inches so it might not fit in some applications. I would not use this in a residential closet; A garage or large utility room would work much better. The noise is not that bad but I did notice that the filter is too restrictive and has plastic molding flaws that keep the air from moving freely. The noise is greatly reduced when the filter is off so I might call in for a new filter or make a better one on my own. It looks like it draws about 1100 watts when running and after a 15 gallon draw it runs for about 1:20 minutes to get back to temp, but with 80+ gallons this should work fine in economy mode for most applications. Also you must keep in mind that the installation of this heater will cost more than the standard do to the weight, extra drain lines and maybe a electical run if you are changing from a gas heater. So far I am pleased with it and stats are approximate but I will update when I have more time with it.
1 of 2 found the following review helpful:
Huge Thumbs up on this water heater Jan 31, 2013
By John E. Hughes
We live 60 miles north of New York City, we heat entirely with wood. Problem was that I needed to burn our oil furnace for domestic hot water, until I installed my American Heat Pump Tank. This thing is beautiful. We are a family of 3, (including a 10 year old daughter). We rarely run out of hot water, and when we do, it's because my daughter is lounging in a tub too long. We are 100% off burning oil now (except for winter traveling which is rare), as we've never had this tank on anything but the high efficiency, Heat Pump setting. In the summer, this tank cools, circulates air, and dehumidifies the basement too, an added bonus.
This is how we use our tank. We have a wood burning stove in the basement we keep burning all winter long, at night when we go down to the basement to load the wood stove for the evening, we turn up the Heat Pump Tank to its max, 150* to take advantage of our smart electric meter (day and night rates). In the morning when we wake up we have 80 gallons of 150* water awaiting us. When we go downstairs to load the basement wood stove in the morning, we turn the tank down to 125* to prevent it from kicking on during the day, more expensive electrical rate times. If we REALLY have a cold snap, and the water coming into the house is that much colder, I'll leave the daytime temp of the tank at 135* to compensate. If I know my daughter is planning on an hour long tub, I'll take my shower a bit early to let the tank re-heat in time. In the summer we generally set the tank to 120* and forget about it.
It all depends on the temp of the water coming into the house, but when I installed this, in March 2011, (still very cold water coming into the house), it ran for about 6 hours then shut down leaving us with 80 gallons of 120* water, and this was at the high efficiency, Heat Pump setting. I think I read somewhere that this setting used about 850 watts, the savings is enormous.
There is a venting system for this tank that would allow you 10 feet of venting total between the inlet and exhaust, I'm interested in getting that so I may enclose this tank and be able to direct the exhaust toward the wood burning stove to assist with circulation. I've made a few calls to try to order this, but No-One really knows what I'm talking about.... lol
2 of 6 found the following review helpful:
GE GeoSpring a cheaper alternative Sep 16, 2011
By Carl Huber
Update March 15, 2013
Note - this review is for Hybrid Water Heaters IN GENERAL! They don't have to be expensive. But ... read on.
The GE heater I actually purchased had a manufacturing defect that should have been recalled but wasn't. The foam installed in the coils contained an compound that produces an acid when it becomes wet, dissolving the coils! After about a year the coils leak and must be replaced. GE was very nice about having it repaired, and the unit continues to work (on electric elements) even though the heat pump has failed. The GE repairman was very accommodating to my schedule and even worked on his day off when he had to return (the part GE sent for the repair was also faulty ... hmmm)
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These hybrid heaters are excellent. I replaced my Whirlpool standard; it had a 12 year warranty and broke after 6, but ignoring the warranty and replacing with the hybrid was more cost effective.
I purchased a nearly identical model (50 gallon version), the GeoSpring directly from Lowes. It was plumbing and electric plug compatible and except for the weight (over 200 lbs.) was a breeze to install myself (WARNING: Don't try to move it alone - I nearly dropped it. VERY HEAVY. In California there is a requirement to secure it to a wall.) You also need to either pipe the water runnoff from the compressor to a sump well or to a container you would empty periodically like a dehumidifier. I ran half-inch PVC along the wall to a sump pump - trivial plumbing job. If you have a heat pump with similar run-off the two devices can share the discharge pump if located nearby.
The unit has a front panel with buttons and LCD display and LED indicator lights that enables you to select the temperature and efficiency mode, including a "vacation" mode, with ease, not like old models where you have to open a cover, turn the unit off, and turn a screw to reset the water temperature.
The GeoSpring was on sale at Lowes for $999 AND there is currently a $300 FEDERAL TAX CREDIT for buying one. So at an actual cost of only $700, plus hundreds of dollars per year saved on electricity, purchasing the hybrid is a no-brainer for the budget-minded.
Not only does the hybrid heater do a great job of heating water, but it also cools the surrounding air when in normal or high efficiency mode and dries the air, reducing the demand on the basement dehumidifier and A/C. You can switch to standard electric mode if you don't want that feature, but it will consume normal amounts of electricity. It also has a "high demand" mode which I've tried and it works very well - no cold showers for anyone on busy mornings (we have 6 people living at home, youngest is 13 - i.e., long showers ....)
I haven't seen the electric bill yet, but official and reasonable claims are that it uses 62% less electricity, which can save several hundred dollars per year on the electric bill. Also because it doubles as an air chiller and dehumidifier, it will save even more in the summer.
1 of 7 found the following review helpful:
AWH DOES NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS Jan 31, 2013
I bought a home 2 years ago in 2011. The previous homeowner bought an American Water Heater in 2004 with a 12 year warranty. The warranty has a clause stating that the warranty only applies to the original purchaser. Now I had had several problems in the last year with keeping the pilot lit. I've had thermal couplers replaced (twice), and replaced a valve, and it is still routinely malfunctioning. I called up AWH and (stupidly) told them I wasn't the original purchaser. They just told me to try a couple of things and nothing worked. They recommended a new gas valve. I said I want repair work done under warranty. They said, "sorry, we won't honor the warranty because you weren't the original purchaser". I told them that this is just a greedy money-saving slimy business practice. Even if the homeowner sold the house a week after installing the water heater, they won't honor their warranty to the new purchaser. What purpose does it serve to conduct your business that way? It's only purpose is to save money, and because they can do it. Their mindset is, "Well, the original purchaser isn't going to care about this and not buy the water heater, because it only screws over the next guy. It doesn't affect the person who bought it, so let's cut off the warranty on the product as quickly as possible." They think they can make some cost-cutting measure like this without consequences because they got nothing from me directly. But I bought this house and everything in it, and paid for it, including a water heater that came with a warranty. I spoke to 3 customer service people and a supervisor and the supervisor just says, "that's what the warranty says." He even says he understands how I feel and it recently happened to him on something he bought! Yet he says they "can't" do anything. I said, no, you CAN, but you WON'T. I told them that they are forgetting that when I have to buy a NEW water heater some day, it won't be from American Water Heater. THEY DON'T STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS. They made their choice and that's the consequences. DON'T BUY AMERICAN WATER HEATERS!